Ursine rambling and grumbling

I don't bake all that often.

I cook just about every day of the year, but when it comes to cakes, pies and breads, it's more of a few-times-a-month thing. So my bakeware doesn't get the workout that my cookware does. Nevertheless, cake pans do wear out eventually.

Every year, just before the Christmas holiday, I make at least one Fruit Cake.

Now before you go wrinkling your nose at the thought of the Dreaded Brick of Inedible Goo, be sure to read my other blog on Fruit Cake. We're not talking about what you might be thinking of.

In any case, when I make this holiday treat, I use my Bundt Cake pan. The original recipe for the Fruit Cake calls for a loaf pan, but I use the Bundt pan because, not only does the resulting cake look more "festive", it's an excuse to use my Bundt Cake pan at least once a year.

Well, my Bundt pan is over 20 years old and is beginning to show its age.

While shopping for gifts at the local Bed, Bath and Beyond, I spotted one of those new-fangled silicone pans in the Bundt cake form factor (see figure 1). As I'd been intrigued by these, and knowing that my current Bundt pan was wheezing along on its last breaths, I made an impulse decision to purchase it.

Figure 1: New-fangled Silicone Bundt Pan

It seemed like a good idea at the time.

OK, given the O. Henry-esque fore-shadowing that I just dropped in your laps, you're probably guessing at this point that I've found the results less than stellar.

In brief, the pan sucks. Hard.

There were three major problems I encountered with this pan. I know the problem is in the pan as I've made this same cake recipe dozens of times over the years.

The problems:

  1. Uneven baking.
  2. Little to no browning.
  3. Stickage.

Let's start with the stickage. You'd think that silicone would be a relatively good non-stick surface, but it isn't. Unmolding the cake was actually rather easy — just a matter of gently peeling the sides away from the cake — but the surface layer of the cake peeled away, sticking to the pan.

This resulted in a cake that looked rather less than festive. And let's face it, the only reason to use a Bundt Pan is to wow your guests with looks!

OK, even though the pan instructions said that greasing was not necessary, I could give the pan a "bye" on this one — the Fruit Cake probably has less fat in it than most other cakes, and perhaps greasing the pan for this particular recipe would be necessary.

However, after cooking the cake the usual amount of time, and even applying the "toothpick test", I found that the cake was unevenly cooked. The outside and center of the cake (where one usually applies the "toothpick test") were solid, but the inside surface of the ring was inexplicably uncooked.

And this in a convection oven where I know that the heat distribution is top-notch.

Hmmm. So I put the cake back in the pan (rather easy with silicone) and cooked it another 15 minutes or so to solidify the uncooked portion.

The final problem was browning — or rather, the lack thereof. A metal or glass pan retains heat that it imparts to its contents. Apparently, silicone does not. The exterior of the cake (most of which stuck to the pan) was pallid and soft. No browned crust, no roasty flavors, no wondrous Maillard reaction.

The resulting cake was certainly edible — it's a wonderful recipe with enough flavor to spare — but that roasty crust is an important part of the flavor component of a cake and you don't realize just how important it is until it's missing.

Oh, and becasue of the above problems, rather than "festive", the cake looked like ass.

So much for the Great Silicone Expirement.

For anyone who's so inclined, a metal Bundt Cake pan is on my Christmas List.


Yep had the same problem with chocolate cake in a brand new 10 1/4" (Mastrad) round cake pan. Excess cake mixture cooked in silicone muffin pans with similar result. The muufin pans worked fine in the past with a savoury recipe. Will adjust cooking temperature and times and try greasing next time (even though instructions say otherwise).
I tried the loaf pan that came in a set with the bundt and round cake pans. I made a bread I make all the time in a metal loaf pan. My silicone pan sucks! It cooked very unevenly. The center was not done and the sides were too done. So much for cooking evenly. I am not going to try the other pans. I will sell them to someone stupid! However, my bread did not stick to the pan, it actually pulled out like promised. Whatever.
I just tried a bundt pan I recieved for my birthday and I was very upset with the results. I baked a cake I've bake for years and know it takes 55 minutes to bake. After 1 hour and 45 minutes the sides were overdone and the middle was literally still batter consistancy. I also had trouble peeling the cake out as well and I even greased the pan. I won't be adding anymore to my collection!!
I have exactly the same problem.
I have had TERRIBLE results baking with this pan. I'm thinking I will use as a jello mold.
I have two of these with similar results... I thought it was my oven, but then went back to traditional bundt and had much better results. Also, the silicone is supposedly easy to clean in soap and water- what a joke! I used nonstick spray (as per directions) then flour, and the darn stuff just doesn't come off, even after repeated soakings, scrubbing, and dishwasher. I think I'll just throw them out - I wouldn't even give them away, I'm so disgusted.
Oh my god I thought it was me.. My honey bought me several silicone pans.. and I hate them all! want them?
I'm so glad I saw this! I love to bake and my husband and inlaws bought me a ton of silicon pans last Christmas. I have had so much trouble with slightly burned tops and uncooked centers so it was a relief to find company for my misery. I read something on another site about not preheating the oven so I am going to give them one more try. I wish everyone happy and successful baking!
Well, I have a cake in the over now and after an hr and 20 minutes it is still raw in the middle and the sides are near burnt! This was my first time to try the Silicone bundt pan and I sure wish I had read these reviews first! This cake was supposed to be for a funeral dinner at church and It won't be going anywhere but in the trash, along with the pan...
My first silicon pan bundt cake was still gooey in the middle when I flipped it over, so I quick put it back in the oven for a few more minutes, it came out fine. (I just read somewhere that silicon bundt pans take about 10% or so more time). Banana bread baked in a loaf pan, no problem. Muffins, no problem. But my last 3 bundt cakes -- quite an embarrassment. I too was baking one the other day for a funeral repast. I had it in the oven for well over an hour, probably @ 80 min. It browned well, looked really good. Until I tried to remove it from the pan, that was when disaster struck. It came apart, I ended up taking only angel biscuits to the repast. Luckily I was able to give chunks of cake to people who prefer taste over presentation so that I didn't have to eat the whole thing myself. I wondered if maybe I should have let it cool a bit more before trying to remove, or if I should have flipped it over earlier, then let it cool more. I did grease the pan before baking, but no flour. The pans that you can twist seem to work well, but the bundt pan is another story. I'm going to keep trying, but that may be a lot of cake to have to eat too.
I bought a set of the Kitchenaid silicone pans after alot of curiosity. I have several friends that are professional chefs, that swear by silicone bakeware. I must note that my chef friends say that no oil spray or grease is needed. However, I noticed in the directions on the box that it says to use a light cooking spray. I used the pans with spray and they worked great. Excellent release (better than any non stick ive ever used) great done-ness. In the last week i ran out of cooking spray, Its thanksgiving and im cooking several cakes, and muffins for breakfast. I decieded that i would use the pans without spray, I was very disappointed. They stuck so bad i would have been better off using cast iron. I thought maybe they were damp, so I dried them well before the next batch. Same result. I then thought I would coat them with a light oil. Same result. Now im thinking the only thing that EVER made them non-stick was the spray. And i have to say that ive used the spray on some pretty bad pans in the past and stuff has released fine. HMMM.....Im going back to good old fashioned metal.
Same problem with sticking. Although I must say they cook thoroughly at least in my experience.
Well I was making a pound cake for a bake sale tomorrow, but now my cake sucks and will go to my hermit neighbor. It did not cook like the same recipe I have used for the past 5 years. It also stuck to the top. I am not happy. I have no cake to sell. I wish I had looked all this up first. I am glad I am not the only one. I think the only silicone thing I want is a spatula.
Yes, silicone rocks for spatulas. I even have a silicone brush that works really really well. Whoever thought it'd be great for bakeware was smoking some serious crack.
I love my silicon bakeware, haven't had a problem but did do a lot of research as to how to use it. One of the things I use is a cookie sheet (regular metal) under any of the silicone stuff. It helps even out the cooking and also prevents some of the rubbery smell when cooking. I love the clean up, fold it inside out, use some warm water and soap and all done.
I haven't tried anything other then the Kitchenaid Muffin rack with the removable silicone muffin shells. Like many of you, I thought my oven was on the fritz. The muffins raised quit high at the center (they somewhat resembled the Matterhorn) but the sides didn't raise at all. I tried adjusting the oven temp thinking that the sides were cooking much faster then the center, but that didn't work either. Any suggestions before I toss a $30.00 pan in the trash? I thought about giving it to a friend, but thought better of it; I like my friends. Maybe I'll give it to someone I don't like.

At the same time I bought the Bundt pan, I bough a dozen silicone cup-cake cups. Also useless for baking.

However, I've been using them to freeze freshly-squeezed lime juice for making limeade. They work great for that! Maybe you can similarly re-purpose your muffin cups?

I just bought a silicone "flowered" pan mold and it took forever to bake from it as well. After cooling, I flipped it over, and the top of the cake stuck to the silicone! Yikes. Perhaps I should have used PAM? Does anyone know if spraying PAM will work? With reading all of the above, I guess silicone pans only work with mini cake (like muffins), oh and bread... but not larger cakes. I'm not tossing my cute pan just yet...
I haven't had any of the problems with sticking or stuff coming out uncooked, but the bottom and sides always come out a little rubbery. This happens no matter what shape of bakeware I use (loaf, cake, etc.) Any suggestions on how to keep the rubbery texture away?
I sure wish I had read this blog before I tried baking a Bundt cake! I've used a Bundt pan for years but when I moved overseas I left it in storage. I recently saw a silicone Bundt pan (or something similar - it has deeper indentations than a traditional Bundt) in a kitchen market and bought it. I baked a cake to take to an office party in my new pan and it too wasn't anywhere near done when it should have been. I baked it nearly twice as long and then could not get it out of the pan. The cake stuck in the whole fluted part and just the rest of the cake came out. I ended up slicing it up instead of taking a fancy cake on a plate with powdered sugar on it. It got eaten - and my husband got to eat all the little bits that stayed behind - so I guess it worked out but it sure didn't look pretty! I can't believe that they'd put something like this on the market without warning people that it needs to bake longer and that it apparently has no advantage over the old type of pan. I also had to put it on a metal pan to be able to control it - and trying to "pop" a hot cake out was no fun...


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