Norman Richards recently posted an article in response to a comment made by Joseph Ottinger when he presented my article on TSS:
"What is interesting about JSF is not that it is a great framework by itself. JSF is interesting because it is a great framework for building a web framework. I would compare it to the Servlet specification. Servlets are rather dull little beasts. The API is entirely un-clever, and nobody in their right mind would use to build an application with. Yet, even though almost nobody every writes a doGet() or doPost(), we all use the Servlet spec every day because every single web framework is built upon it. It handles the most mundane part aspects of request-processing, leaving the real work of being a web framework to ... the web frameworks."
I have no problem believing this statement. The problem I guess I have is that is not how JSF was promoted on thrown at us. JSF was touted as the latest and greatest in web frameworks. What's nice about the Servlet spec is how low level it is. Building a framework on top of the Servlet specification makes sense. I believe in that. Building a framework on top of a framework? Something about that just seems wrong. Not wrong in that it's being done. Wrong in that it was designed this way.
However, a lot of developers are liking the Seam+Facelets+whatever else combo so, more power to them. If they are paying the bills with it, who am I to argue. I'll continue to use Stripes, until something better comes along or it proves to be a square peg for a round holed project.
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